Tuesday, November 11, 2014

EDITORIAL: CW/TNT Nightwing and Red Hood

EDITORIAL: CW Nightwing and Red Hood

With TNT's apparently moving forward with their Titan's show, whether it be connected to the Arrowverse or not (50/50 at this point). Nightwing is the lead, and here I will discuss his casting.

Who should play Nightwing you ask?...Well it is quite rare that you find an actor so fit for a role, who also wants that role...and thats why I can say with no questions at all asked that Steven R. McQueen is the man for the role. 

McQueen currently plays Jeremy Gilbert on the CW's Vampire Diaries, a character who at times hold a very similar likeness in emotion to Dick Grayson. McQueen's overall look and composure are all to similar to how Dick Grayson would act, and I can almost assure fans that if this casting came to fruition, it would be as if Nightwing had been torn right off the page of a comic book.

Clearly McQueen has the superhero build, but his likeness to Dick Grayson his uncanny as well. Again, not only does McQueen want this role but many fans also want the role for him. McQueen stands at 6 feet and is 26 years old, however he does play a high school senior on The Vampire Diaries in this season, so his age playable age range is about 19-26, although I am sure TNT't Nightwing will be portrayed as college age. 

To summarize, McQueen is one of the more popular choices, but one I have to agree with, not only does McQueen want to play Nightwing as much as Channing Tatum wanted to play Gambit, but in this case McQueen seems to already be Nightwing. His looks are ideal compared to those of an older Dick Grayson, he is 6'0", enough to assert a dominant presence seeing that he has no powers, and he is pretty big. On top of all of this, we know McQueen can pull off the Dick Grayson attitude seeing as, to some degree, it is who he is in real life (watch interviews etc.) but also to that same degree, it is his character Jeremy Gilbert from The Vampire Diaries.

McQueen riled fans up a few months ago when he tweeted his fried from Everwood, Greg Berlant, who currently produces the CW's Arrow. The tweet in question featured McQueen working out in the gym wearing a Nightwing shirt with the #Nightwing. He later posted more tweets and instagram photos with the same hashtag leading fans to believe he was playing the role. Then came an interview where McQueen admitted that he wasn't actually signed on for the role but he was pushing for it via the hashtags and posts, and with this interview came some slight fan backlash. People began to claim that McQueen had "lied", although he had never actually said "I am playing Nightwing", but fans freaked out anyway...the definition of overreaction. 

With this backlash, came the fall of the #Nightwing from McQueen...that is...until recently, after news broke that TNT would be making a Titans show starring Nightwing, and after the Flash premiered...the #Nightwing returned.

McQueen even visited the circus and used the #Nightwing, something fans of the character will definitely understand as a nod to Dick Grayson's crimefighting origins. People have gone as far as to speculate that these photos hint at some high intensity circus training for said role.

Another circus photo, not including #Nightwing though
Personally despite other choices for the role existing, all of them have clear cut flaws (very very clear) McQueen is the man for the role. In terms of McQueen, there is only one issue, The Vampire Diaries....but he has mentioned that if the opportunity comes, there is no stopping him, even if that means leaving the show, and fans of the show would know if they were up to date that there are definite reasons he could leave this season. #Nightwing 


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Red Hood and the Outlaws, whether the CW connects to TNT's Titans (which would make sense), or it doesn't would be a nice extension the CW's growing superhero lineup. The show could easily feature the semi-missed killing aspect from Arrow's first season. The team features Red Hood at the helm, with Starfire (spun-out of TNT's Titans) and a well developed (character-wise) Arsenal (Roy Harper, spun-out of the CW's Arrow....you can't expect Roy to stick around the whole time...we wouldn't have room for any of the other protégés! *cough* Thea/Mia Dearden Queen/Merlyn *cough*.

His Robin persona could be alluded to, but never directly mentioned. Credit to dannysmicros of deviantart

The theoretical CW evolution of Roy Harper

Despite having Red Hood, a point that should be stressed is...No Batman!...(click the link to see how/why/to what capacity he should be featured).


With Roy truly beginning his crusade as Arsenal this season, it would make sense for said crusade to last (with Oliver) for around 2 (maybe more) seasons. At that point having Roy as "just another archer" would start to detract from Oliver being the main character. I think the ideal way to give Roy an out is for him to simply tell Oliver that he is becoming his own man, and that he thinks he could do more good elsewhere, help more people.

Before anyone asks...no...I do not think Roy will lose his arm...

But based on a 2 year (or slightly more) time as The (Green) Arrow's sidekick , ideally the Red Hood series (or mini-series...it's one of the shows that could last as both) a year or so after Roy's departure from Team Arrow, giving Starfire enough time on TNT to become a more developed character. Jason could also be name-dropped a few times beforehand by Nightwing (hopefully played by Steven R. McQueen) prior to him appearing on his own. 

Who: Casting Red Hood

No...not Jensen Ackles! Ok I figured I would start my most controversial post by getting the elephant out of the room…Jensen Ackles…He is TO OLD to play Red Hood. Some of you may pull the Garfield card…but realistically…Andrew Garfield only pulls off a teen, because he is unlucky enough to still look like he is 17 when he is really 30. I mean no disrespect to Jensen, but the man looks old and worn out…tired…and he could most certainly not fit portray the younger Red Hood that would be called for in the Arrowverse.

With Arrow being a mere 27, and The Flash being a mere 24-25, although you can assume Batman, who would likely never appear would be theoretically older, you could also infer that his disciples Nightwing, Red Hood, and Robin, would be slightly younger then the Flash in a descending order; Steven R. McQueen is an ideal choice for Nightwing, and at the age of 26, he could easily portray someone in the age range of 22-24. That leaves room for a version of Red Hood who is 20-22, perfect age for an Outlaws reference or spinoff, for those familiar, but also a perfect blend for the Arrowverse. Ackles, could not pull that role off. To read more about why age matters and some actors simply can’t pull it off give this a read.

My Own Choice and Evidence:

Now, on to David Henrie…you hear the name and most of you immediately jump to Justin Russo, a role that even he thanks for his jumping point, but also wants you to forget because he doesn’t want to be known for being Justin Russo. Now the CW , if they try to bring in many teen actors, which is 100% possible considering the rumored live action Young Justice show, most of them would likely come from the most popular places that stems child stars; Disney and Nick; once people age out of Disney and Nick shows, they tend to want to go out on their own and become something new.

Their are very few TV actors who fit the profile of Jason Todd, and none that fit it as well as David Henrie. David Henrie is 25, and much like McQueen could easily portray a younger character as he hasn’t hit the “complete maturity looking” stage yet. So ideally he could portray the 20-22 year old Red Hood we would need. As for looks, David Henrie actually looks a surprising amount like Jason Todd as Red Hood, something that is ALWAYS a bonus when casting. Acting level: Henrie is an extremely skilled actor, and shows it in each performance, he isn’t corny unless the script calls for it, and is all around a well rounded actor who hasn’t had his breakthrough roll…which this could EASILY be for him. As for people that say he doesn’t have the look…you do realize Red Hood is only a badass when he is fighting…and when he is fighting he tends to be wearing…his Red Hood…outside of fighting…especially in Red Hood and the Outlaws…he is somewhat of a jokester…another side of the character that could easily be portrayed by Henrie. Height: Well I don’t want to have to explain height completely but just know his work.


After reviewing countless suggestions I compiled a list and posed a poll to two Facebook pages...the  views, according to Facebook, were 7,000+ viewers, and David Henrie won the poll*


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1 comment:

  1. Who is Austin Butler portraying here? And is Jensen supposed to be Deathstroke or Sportsmaster?