Wednesday, October 15, 2014

NEWSATORIAL: DC Movie Lineup and a WTF Flash Casting

NEWS: DC Movie Lineup and a WTF Flash Casting

DC Movie Lineup

Extrapolating from the original announcement of reserved dates, the new schedule of DC Comics movies is as follows:


March 25: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice
August 5: Suicide Squad


June 23: Wonder Woman
November 17: Justice League


March 23: The Flash
July 27: Aquaman


April 5: Shazam
June 14: Justice League 2


April 3: Cyborg
June 19: Green Lantern

An overall awesome day until....

"Ezra Miller to play WB's The Flash" in the DCCU....

The one thing I feel this confirms is that we will see a preNew 52 Wally as the Flash in these movies rather than Barry

Now at first I agreed, Hal and Barry SHOULD be the Flash and GL in the JLA movie....I even thought so after the Arrowverse was confirmed to be separate from the DCCU; but the more I thought about it...the less sense it seemed to make.

Now currently on the CW's Flash show we have Barry Allen, and producers recently confirmed they would like to bring seemingly, the New 52 version of Wally onto the show eventually. CW/WB/DC has now established 2 out of the 3 logical TV screen trinity choices, with the next in line being, you guessed it....Hal Jordan. I won't go into the logistics of the character or the show because it has been gone over in write ups linked right here:

Onto the cinematic universe and who should be chosen... with the CW using Barry Allen,Hal Jordan is also quite the likely candidate for the next large scale character to make it to the small screen, and considering WB isn't Marvel, and they own all the rights to the characters, why compete with themselves?....Why make this a Peter Maximoff (DoFP) vs. Quicksilver (AoU) when they own ALL of the rights? On top of that, if each member of the League is broken down into their core components, if you want to diversify the League in both the literal sense, and the sense of their essence, using John and Wally (preNew 52) makes even more sense.

Just to take a quick glance at the League as it stands (theoretically):

Superman: A man who fights for the people, and stands up to do whats right.

Batman: The brains, who also packs a punch, the methodological leader.

Cyborg: The young, yet driven and smart member of the League.

Wonder Woman: (Rumors say she has been among humans for awhile in DoJ) So, very logical, human ambassador type leader, political in her views.

Flash (Wally): The fun loving, joke cracking "kid" of the team.

G.L. (John): The post war vet who understands that doing things by the law isn't always the best movie...due to his war based past...he gets that.

Martian Manhunter?: The other, less familiar (with how things work) logical thinker of the team.

Shazam?: Waly's counter...the only member of the team who gets Wally, and at times acts like him, but unlike Wally he wants to be more like stand for something...but because he is a kid on the inside...he struggles with it.

**Quick note....there are 3 distinctive pairings...and if you have 1 of the kind of have to have the other or their is no point in having the former: Hal and Barry, John and Wally, Kyle and Wally**

Now I bet there are people out there who will say "but if they ignore Barry and Hal then...." thats just it...they don't have to ignore Barry and Hal...but they don't have to mention them either. The Justice League cartoon, which was among the more popular cartoons of its time did the exact same thing (although Hal had a brief 20 second cameo in JLU). And fans didn't complain, to that point people may say "but those were just kids watching that show, they didn't know that there was a Barry and a Hal". And I respond to that by saying.... 90% of CBM goers have never picked up a comic, nor do they chose to.... then there are the kids that watched that show who have now grown up on comics due to that shows influence...they would get it....all thats left are the fans who WOULD accept the minor swap and the complainers who WOULDN'T...and since majority does rule...well you get it...

**Another reason to include John would be to distance themselves from the very recent 2011 GL movie that didn't do so well at the box office, and disappointed many fans**

Many people don't know this...but the JL cartoon did have a very different lineup....pictured below...but they, as WB seems to want to do now....chose to diversify the group.


Just a precursor...he is an AWESOME ACTOR BUT...

You want to differentiate this Flash from the one on TV...esepecially if you aren't choosing to merge the universe...casting someone just as young (younger) then Gustin... in a world where the heroes are substantially older that already doesn't seem right...especially when an age differential between Gustin and the DCCU's Flash would have been a nice "separator" between the two. The DCCU also seems to be going with all "older" heroes rather than post-college they seem to be content with early 30's and late 20's....why make the Flash a brooding gothic kid who is in his early 20's? ... Yes...people can be "aged" with movie magic...but anything beyond 3-4 years starts to look unnatural... 

Some may argue that making him look like  Grant is a way to pull viewer ship...but in reality a JL/Flash movie doesn't need that...this casting is not only "out there" but this day and age is MATTERS if people look the part of a hero in general...Miller unfortunatley does not.

On top of that, the biggest initial complain with Gustin was that he didn't look like any of the Flash's from the comics...why then would they pick someone who looks more like Grant Gustin then Barry Allen or Wally West ( I assume they will go with Wally...)...

Lastly, this guy is good at one thing...DARK ROLES, he looks goth 99.9% of the time and plays just that part in every (almost) role...even the roles he is supposed to be a happy character come off as dark and brooding...something that none of the Flash's are

Final thoughts although disappointed...He will most likely be a preNew 52 version of Wally if anything...that way people can have a semi logical Justice League...Bart was the Flash for all of 1 year (if that even) and is barely known....the "Allen" last name will confuse people regardless of who is playing who...especially the 90% of moviegoers who don't read comics but hear about a show about Barry Allen (B. Allen) and Bart Allen (B.Allen).... the CW seems to be taking a post New 52 take on Wally, one that is less widely known, and will be his routes as Kid Flash, and it would make
sense for the DCCU to elaborate on a part of Wally we most likely won't ever see on the CW, a preNew 52 take on the character

UPDATE: People then say... "But Gotham has a bruce and Ben Affleck is also Bruce Wayne...why not have 2 Barry Allens...."Their is nearly a 40 year age gap between the 2 bruces.... you can't compare a 10 year old pre Batman Bruce Wayne and a well seasoned 40+ year old Batman and call them the same...this is a miscast because they seem to try to replicate the Grant Gustin casting rather than going with someone in the age range of the rest of the League and closer to the leagues age.... so essentially we have the exact same characters...who are indistinguishable and therefore it makes little sense to imply they are the same and not have them the same...that is why something as simple as making him Wally rather than Barry makes sense

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